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  • Okay, the first part of this ended with a question, and I asked people to respond. Several did, but not all of them had something to contribute...or maybe they are just as confused as I am.

    Here are the responses. I have not included the names of the people who responded.

    1. “I'd put greed at the top of the list.”

    2. “How about knowing one's self honestly and actually and I mean actually practicing what one preaches!!!!”

    3. “An extremely cynical answer, which many today are fond of spouting: FOLLOW THE MONEY.” 

    4. “More healers and fewer wounders? How about that?” 

    5. “I see your frustration about ppl here not "getting it," but disagreeing does not necessarily mean that one doesn't understand. Respect of differences - in experience, opinion, belief - and the freedom to disagree go a long way here and in general. ”  “Just a word about laws - they seem far less impotent when they endanger your livelihood, your family, your life, your very basic rights. Respectfully, maybe not everyone needs to "get" the same thing. ” 

    6. “In my experience, Fred, I have found that many people here "get it" - but I guess it all comes down to what you define "it" to be. For me, it's taking personal responsibility for your life - owning what's in it, changing what you don't like. ”  “To make effective change in the world around me, I must begin within. It's not "out there", it's right here, right now. I think a lot of people do get it, in their own, unique & individual ways. Sometimes I do - sometimes I don't. Workin' on it. ” 

    7. “I find that a useful thought-experiment is to clean the cosmic slate, and ask:"If I had to invent a set of laws, where would I start and what would emerge?" Thanks for your passion around all this!” 

    Now my question was how do we go about setting up a standard that everyone can get behind. LAWS don't work unless you obey them. ETHICS don't work unless you agree with them. And since both of those are based on MORALITY, that seems a dead end as well. Or is it?

    Numbers 1 and 3 appear to feel that greed will be the overwhelming factor in human behavior, and they could well be right. After all, aren't the people in the media, the ones who draw our attention, the ones who seem to be able to accumulate vast sums of money. We hear about movie stars and athletes who succeed and are making million dollar salaries and they become the role models for our children. Even when news of injustice and atrocities is announced, it quickly fades beneath the glossy veneer of the red carpet and the arena. Add to that our propensity as a whole for “instant gratification” from video games and Netflix and On Demand and other sources on the internet, and it is easy to indulge one's desires instead of care about the plight of others. We have taken the philosophy of Rome (satisfying the masses with bread and circuses) to a new and potentially fatal high. We now “Let them eat cake.” with shameless abandon. And the people with the money are not concerned in the least with its source. They simply want to have it all.

    5 seems to want to ignore the situation and let us all flounder about in the miasma of anarchy. The whole point of this is we NEED to “get” the same thing. And I am not talking about religion or patriotism or any other kinds of ism that might be in existence today. When I started the first discussion, I specifically stated I want to take beliefs out of this. So for clarification, this is not about getting someone's beliefs. This is about setting a standard which can be seen universally among the species as a way to grow in a positive direction. The old ways aren't working. Time to try something new.

    2, 4, and 6 are at least heading in the right direction. Practice what you preach is definitely the way to live, but what is it that you should preach? Remember, no beliefs. I want to hear the way to define a set of standards that works for everyone. More healers and fewer wounders is a nice thought, but a little generic. And while I was reading number 6, I was listening in my head to Michael Jackson's Man in the Mirror. Nothing wrong with that, since the two seem to be very similar in their approach.

    #7 is basically asking my question back to me. So at least that individual knows the question, but didn't offer any solutions.

    You know, when you get to the Cowbird site, the catchphrase is “a witness to life”. Is that all we are, witnesses, chroniclers? Somehow, I just don't think so.

    We have many critical thinkers here, people who are interested in making this planet a better place where children can grow and learn and live without the threat of disease and war and fear in their daily lives. While I doubt there will ever be a Utopia, it could happen if we get started on it.

    Whatever we come up with, I do agree that we have to set the example for others to follow. Now the situation is to develop the standards for the example.

    Call it a challenge, call it an interesting proposal, or just call it your contribution to a better planet.

    Anyone?

    Fred
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